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| Tuesday, October 23rd Daily Discussion | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Oct 22 2012, 01:39 PM (8,174 Views) | |
| blueskies | Oct 23 2012, 12:13 PM Post #81 |
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I just read the Kristen stuff, and while this sounds okay, it just annoys me to no end that the writers couldn't even be bothered to wiki Kristen to find out that they all think she's DEAD!!! |
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| Snowing Fan | Oct 23 2012, 12:23 PM Post #82 |
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Sami is a hypocrite,everytime she lies or manipulates and gets caught she automatically expects to be forgiven,but when the shoe is on the other foot she cannot do it. |
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| The Room Stops | Oct 23 2012, 01:53 PM Post #83 |
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That would be very nice indeed. That those actions are what caused Kristen to lose the baby. Her own actions. |
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| Mason | Oct 23 2012, 05:41 PM Post #84 |
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Has it completely escaped these people that this woman is supposed to be DEAD? And exactly what warrants were out for the arrest of a woman who, again, everybody thought was dead? The statute of limitations for what has expired? Kidnapping? What? I hate how it's being written as if Kristen left Salem by skipping town to avoid arrest or something like that. |
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| AFaithL | Oct 23 2012, 05:50 PM Post #85 |
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Truth!! |
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| Days4Life | Oct 23 2012, 07:14 PM Post #86 |
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History aside (and, yes, they are trashing a lot of it), I just love watching Kristen play John and Marlena the way she did today. Such injured innocence...LOL. And ED is amazing! |
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| esp13 | Oct 23 2012, 07:52 PM Post #87 |
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I have to admit that the history inaccuracies don't much bother me. Partly, it's simply because I don't know that history that well because I wasn't watching it. Also, I'm not sure how much it matters in terms of story. Getting the timeline wrong or not addressed the fact that Kristen was supposed to be dead doesn't really change the way people are reacting to Kristen. Other than leaving out the "OMG, you're alive" first reaction, I don't think the reactions would/should change much. That said, I love it when the show addresses history I know correctly, so I do understand the frustration. |
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| onceinalifetime | Oct 23 2012, 08:06 PM Post #88 |
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Speaking of Jack's photo, when was it moved from the mantel to an accent table in the Horton living room? |
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| granolagirl | Oct 23 2012, 08:31 PM Post #89 |
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#SorryNotSorry
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I thought Marlena's reaction was within a stone's throw of being good (I thought you were dead, or in a third world prison). |
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| esp13 | Oct 23 2012, 09:03 PM Post #90 |
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Okay, I couldn't even make it through 10 seconds of the EJ/Jennifer scene. JS and MR are NOT a good combination. However, the threatening EJ at the end? That's the sweevil guy I used to actually tolerate. Kristen clearly needs to have her eyes checked. John does not look the same. Kristen is still cracking me up and I actually love the background music playing in these scenes. It's kind of light and fun. M: You're a liar. K: Not anymore. Hee!! Love it. Lucas telling Sami some truths is always fun. I love how BD is playing these scenes. His smile when he got to the Carrie stuff was awesome. KA's hair is beautiful today and makes MR's look even worse than usual. I have a really hard time watching Jennifer scenes and it honestly has nothing to do with the character. In the write-ups, I like the character okay and sometime sympathize with her. But MR is just bugging me a lot right now. Another shocker -- that EJ/Rafe scene was pretty good. Wonders never cease. It's official, Kristen makes everything/everyone better. |
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| lysie | Oct 23 2012, 09:17 PM Post #91 |
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I think I watched a total of 7 minutes. John/Marlena/Kristen was fine. It's just so...anticlimatic. We waited 14 years for this? They still have their old rapport and banter down. I don't have a problem with Marlena coming across OTT suspicious, and I like how Deidre is playing it. I've seen a glimpse of the old incredibly delusional Kristen, too, and that's nice. Was happy to see Lucas/Jennifer. Tried to watch the early EJ stuff today, but JS and MR were cringeworthy. Thanks you two for ruining Elope. Appreciate it. |
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| elci525 | Oct 23 2012, 10:28 PM Post #92 |
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Em...yeppers!! 110% agree =) Sort of incredible how in that single line and delivery, the history shared between these two, how long they have known each other, came rushing out to me. Not like I needed a reminder really. Magic indeed, as the spark is always there and scenes such as today's are such good vehicles for their chemistry. The Lumi scenes, unsurprisingly, made me smile amid the dreck of the rest of the show. Although, no, I did really like seeing Kristen stand in the doorway, John turn around and Kristen smirk back at him. And, maybe I am alone here, but I rather enjoyed EJ staring down Jennifer. I dislike Jennifer so much, that I actually appreciate EJ in comparison. Also liked seeing Lucas Horton interact with Jennifer. That makes a total of, what, ten minutes in 19 years? ;) All that business in the Horton Town Square in front of the plaque - the less said about that, the better. How many moments like that can Tomlin write, I mean really? No matter how hard he might try, writing Safe as a grand, cinematic 1940s movie couple won't make me buy into them anymore. I can't erase the memory of that "search" of theirs thru the HTS a few weeks ago. Bogie and Bacall they ain't. Edited by elci525, Oct 24 2012, 12:09 AM.
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| Courtneya6688 | Oct 23 2012, 11:07 PM Post #93 |
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I actually really liked this episode it was much better than i expected. Loved lucus calling sami out. And kristen and john scenes were good. |
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| Hamilton | Oct 23 2012, 11:29 PM Post #94 |
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Wow, could Daniel be any more of a jerk?! 'Hey Nicole baby lets split but first let my true love off the hook cuz there is no way she had any culpability in your accident.' I wish Nicole would come to her senses and realize this man is so not worth wanting to build a life with. Eric can't get here soon enough for me! Lucas you make me laugh! Love his way with words and especially holding up the mirror to Sami. I think these two work so well together in these scenarios. I actually think they are more interesting as a couple when shown as brutally honest friends. They have an amusing spark and their history clinches the authenticity of the moments. I also think the subtext of their romantic history keeps it fresh and the viewers guessing. I'm not sure the Horton plaque had any deep meaning other than a prop to have Sami thinking of Rafe right before she bumped into him. It did amuse me that the renewal ceremony, when Sami was big time lying to Rafe to appease her conscience, was the moment she reflected on. Wasn't that basically her 'new start' with a carried on lie? What goes around comes around. I liked Ej tormenting Jennifer and her finally cowering on the stairs. Don't mess with a Dimera. I also like that he is keeping Daniel and Rafe unsure of his motives. Rafe is right to not trust Ej letting them off the hook and I loved Daniel's line about not knowing if what Ej says is true because he lies so smoothly. Kristen's return still needs more pow for me. I want to be drawn in immediately and it's just not happening. I'd like more undercurrents to the deviousness that lies within to get excited about her. Marlena going a little nuts over mistrusting Kristen adds some amusement, but I don't need to be guessing if she's reformed as the story. I want wicked fun and I want it now! |
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| appleblossom | Oct 24 2012, 04:10 AM Post #95 |
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I think there should be scenes of Lucas with both his sisters, that would be interesting. EJ was wrong to threaten Jen, wait until the truth comes out. I also think Lucas came off as too arrogant telling Sami off, he acts like he never did her wrong either, he wouldn't like Sami throwing in his face the dirty things he and Kate did to her years ago. He has a right to be hurt and angry, she broke his heart, but if they are going to stay friends, be more sensitive. Of course he should always tell her what day it is, I like that most about Lucas. |
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| lumifan4life | Oct 24 2012, 07:31 AM Post #96 |
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Lucas being insensitive and sarcastic was the whole point of the Lumi scenes. He's calling her out on her crap and that's always how their dynamic works. No reason for him to be sensitive here because Sami can take it, lol. She knows Lucas cares about her enough to point out when she's being a hypocrite which is pretty much all the time. No one else knows her the way Lucas does and she trusts his judgment. That's why she really never has room to argue with him. Their friendship usually works beautifully because of this fact. As for Lucas being hurt and angry still, well that was the whole point as well. Lucas is still bitter and in resentment mode. He's obviously still hurt over their own break-up and that's the reason for the exaggerated sarcasm and pissed off attitude everytime he walks out, lol. If Sami didn't still get to him this way, then I would know for sure that he was over her. No reason for him to be this fired up around her if the feelings weren't still strong and the hurt wasn't still raw. That also proves how deeply he loved her and most likely still does. It's Sami who is being insensitive to Lucas when you think about it because she is oblivious to the fact that he is still hurt over their break-up. She's focused on Rafe and has moved on like Sami famously always does. |
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| Lil | Oct 24 2012, 02:31 PM Post #97 |
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I have to say, aside from SlamMe I quite enjoyed this episode. Lucas just BROUGHT IT with all the snark. Why is he not around more????? EJ was a bit OTT and ridiculous and the fact that he went and started going off on Nicole, Eyebrows & orangeglow only to walk away telling them he is doing nothing was rather pointless. And I am now more convinced then ever that GG sucks a million times harder than usual in scenes with JS. It's like, Ok, EJ has entered the room so Rafe must stand there with smug douche-face the entire time. Whatever. I LMFAO when EJ had that little 30 second tidbit of shifting his eyes back & forth in the style of Peter Blake once he left the hospital room. Unfortunately for him, Jason Brooks was waaaaaaaaay better at it. But it definitely brought me back. Jennifer has been so hit or miss with me lately. I mean, I hate the whole Daniel is my twu wuv 4 eva thing already...And I hate that this woman who has a grow up child is embroiled in a s/l that seems more suited to someone her daughter's age...but that aside...Some of the fights with Nicole, MR was actually quite good. Today she just annoyed the shit out of me. It's like when MR's hair looks good, she's good...when her hair looks atrocious (like in this episode) she gets on my nerves. Weird. JS really sucked in those scenes too, but I've long ago accepted that when JS is good, he's REALLY good and when he's not, he's damn near unwatchable. I kept waiting for him to "sashay" away. lol SlamPig and her sighing at the HTS plaque was all kinds of lame. AS is all kinds of lame. We need more Lucas crapping on her, as that is the only way I find her tolerable. And Eileen Davidson...How do I love thee...I agree that her return doesn't have enough bag...and that she absolutely needs to show more "evil" in her actions...But I love the holy Hell outof her. She does more acting with her face than most of the actors on this show have done with their whole bodies and voices in years. And Deidre was cracking me up too. More, please!!!! |
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| Lil | Oct 24 2012, 02:36 PM Post #98 |
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Oh I also had to LOL at the stupidity of Taniel swearing to Nicole he wants to move on with her and get Jennifer out of his system etc. etc. etc. You know...unless she calls him then he has to bolt out of the room even though Nicole needs him more right now. HOW is he supposed to look good in all this? |
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